The Earth…Was The Designer Loaded?
September 23rd, 2006 Long Cut Posted in News |
DURING THE COURSE of many CrEvo debates, we on the Evo side are confronted frequently with a form of “the Argument From Incredulity” that goes thus…
“The Earth is so perfect, so well-suited for life, how could it NOT be designed?”
My answer is, “Have you looked at it recently?
Since this fallacious “Argument From Incredulity” (simply, “I can’t see how it could have happened, therefore it must have been supernatural…”) pops up quite often, I thought to perform a bit of a thought-experiment. Why not examine the very planet we live on, the Earth (or “Terra” if you prefer) and see what, if any, indications of “design” by an intelligent entity it demonstrates.
I like to break things down, make them easy and manageable, so I’ll actually toss out totally the historic geologic evidence that has been aquired, at least for now. Creationists claim you can’t understand past events unless you’ve seen them, anyway, and stick on these data points all the day. I’ll also toss out archaeology, cosmology and radiocarbon dating. We’ll just go with what we can observe and measure TODAY, in the 21st century.
Anyway, here, for reference’s sake, is a topographical map of the planet known as “Terra”…

…with all its feature, including those under the surface of the oceans, displayed.
As we observe this surface, we note several things immediately.
1. There are no straight lines, nor perfect circles, nor squares, nor, indeed, ANY “regular” features. It gets even worse if we “zoom in” to minute details.
2. The surface is 7/10 covered in water.
3. The surface is, in no portion, “smooth”…rather, it is “rough” and festooned with everything from mountains to deep-ocean trenches to plateaus to, well, you get the idea.
4. No recognizeable shapes of any kind (for example animals, symbols, etc.) can be discerned from any of its features.
Applying further what we do know of the Earth’s surface apart from that which a map can tell, we also know that…
1. Many of its environments are hostile to the survival of a great pecentage of its lifeforms.
2. It is changing. Continents are drifting, islands are forming and dying, mountains are building, and oceans are growing and shrinking. These facts are all the result of current, real-worl measurements.
3. It “wobbles”. Terra’s axis of rotation shifts and wobbles in an iregular fashion, as does its magnetic pole.
4. Its weather patterns, whilst offering some regularity, defy any atempts at accurate prediction, beyond a few days, even with themost advanced technology available.
5. There are indications on its surface of both cataclysmic and gradual events.
That is a very abbreviated list, of course, but it will suffice. Now, let’s apply it to the possibility of it all being “designed” by some intelligent entity. Immediately, questions arise.
- Why not use simple, straight (and presumably easier-to-construct) lines and angles and circles in the design? This would also maximize the available space.
- Why cover a planet ostensibly designed for humans (who have no gills) mostly with water? And non-drinkable seawater at that?
- Why arrange it so that a good percentage of the land area is uninhabitable, or at least, so uncomfortable for humans that they do not choose to live there?
- Why arrange the continents so that they move? Why not simply anchor them, and leave the whole thing unchanging? (very few items designed by humans in their history change their form once complete. They either decay or are recycled…by humans.
- Why is only the surface inhabitable? why not make the interior hospitable as well? Using the interior surface of a sphere doubles its useful area.
- Why have so much of the surface covered with deserts, rocks, mountains, valleys, and rivers in such an irregular and unpredictable manner, which only impedes travel?
- Why have it so dangerous? Between volcanoes, earthquakes, mudslides, hurricanes, blizzards, and, ell, sharks in the seas, why use all this energy to mess things up? Why have so many species, including viruses and bacteria, that prey on humans?
- Why put so many tiny, useless islands all across the seas?
- Why put mountains under the seas? Few if any will ever see them.
- Why vary the terrain and environments to such a great degree? Surely it would have been more economical to limit the environs to a few, hospitable, median ones, instead of the vast diversity we see.
- Why expend the enormous amount of energy necessary to have the weather vary as wildly as it does? Wouldn’t it have been easier to simply have four fixed seasons (or less) worldwide and never changing?
- Why place so many useful minerals and elements so deep in the crust that their extraction is a danger-fraught, expensive evolution?
I could go on and on, but you get the point. In no way does the planet Earth demonstrate any of the features that we would expect from an object that exhibits intelligent design, and that’s even using a cursory inspection. How much worse would the case for ID become were we to include our studies of geology, for example? Of nuclear physics? Of radiocarbon dating?
Now, consider how irregular, diverse, difficult, dangerous, unpredictable, and flat-out crazy living things are. Especially humans.
Think about it.
September 23rd, 2006 at 10:52 pm
Sorry for the typos. I blame the wine and a long day at work.
September 24th, 2006 at 2:13 pm
The biblical answer to this is that the “fall” affected nature and the world as well. Rom. 8:19-22, if you care to look it up.
You guys don’t like it when we theists “dabble” in science. So, be consistent, and steer clear of theology.
September 24th, 2006 at 3:15 pm
I think he’s pointing out that theology CANNOT cover the subject of the physical world with any relevance. It was the religious types that tried to bring their views into the realm of science and this is just a rebuttal to that.
September 24th, 2006 at 3:31 pm
I never really understood the fall. I’m sure there is some twisted form of apologetics that can cover it, but I’ve seen so many contradictory arguments that I question the sanity of those who try.
Let’s face it, religions based on “The Book” assume God is quite capable of creating and managing an eternal retirement community. Why the visible universe — inhabited for a few decades at a time — is so cruddy, is a mystery.
Then there’s the positively Darwinian concept of separating the sheep from the goats, the wheat from the chaff. What’s that all about? Is heaven reserved for the spiritual equivalent of the Nordic Race?
September 25th, 2006 at 11:39 am
Some of these factors are due to plate tectonics, which while messy and often fatal for those humans who get in the way, have an important role in mountain-building (so we don’t end up even more under water!) and element recycling. I don’t know much about planet formation, but I don’t know if it would be possible for a planet to support us if it didn’t have this amount of sea coverage. I guess my question would be why didn’t God make a universe that could support life in a more organized and aesthetically pleasing manner? I’m sure messing with the initial variables could manage such a thing.
Another note, in the book of Revelation the new earth is described as having no sea. I’ve never found this appealing, personally. There’s so much interesting stuff under the sea, and so much interesting stuff along its shores. At any rate, if God is supposed to be able to create a planet that has no sea to support immortal life, one would think he would be able to manage less sea coverage on this one.
September 25th, 2006 at 12:17 pm
Clearly the Fjords were designed by Slartibartfast. Anyone can see that.
September 27th, 2006 at 3:09 pm
The Earth used to be flat, was the center of the universe, and the sun used to revolve around it. But the fall changed all that.
October 3rd, 2006 at 7:12 pm
don’t joke, great old one - there are those who believe that very thing.
October 12th, 2006 at 3:11 am
To Greg: I took your advice, and checked out Romans 8:19-22. Then, on a whim, I looked at what was before it and what was after it. The question arises: What could this possibly have to do with the subject at hand?
[12] Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.
[13] For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
[14] For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
[15] For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
[16] The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
[17] And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
[18] For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.
[19] For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.
[20] For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,
[21] Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
[22] For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.
[23] And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
[24] For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?
I could have just quoted the scriptures that you mentioned, and made the same point, but I know better than to take what “scripture quoters” have to say at face value.
So, what do the verses that you quoted have to do with the subject at hand (assuming, of course, that you are willing to ignore the before and after verses, being the word of God, and all that).