Expelled to XVIVO: Up Yours!
April 11th, 2008 midwifetoad Posted in News |
The cease and desist letter from XVIVO has now been officially answered. The Expelled web site now carries the following announcement:
Editor’s Note: Questions have been raised about the origination of some of the animation used in our movie EXPELLED: No Intelligence Allowed. Claims that we have used any animation in an unauthorized manner are simply false. Premise Media created the animation that illustrates cellular activity used in our film.
The Producers of “EXPELLED: No Intelligence Allowed”
Of course the XVIVO letter never charged Expelled with using their video. Here’s what it says:
We have been advised by counsel that this segment in your film constitutes an actionable infringement of XVIVO’s intellectual property rights, as protected by federal statutes, including Section 106 of the Copyright Act, the Visual Artists Rights Act of 1990, and the Digital Millennium Copyright Act of 1998. Each of these statutes provides for judicial enforcement of their provisions, with substantial civil penalties for their infringement.
We have also obtained legal advice that your copying, in virtually identical form, of material in the “inner Life” video clearly meets the legal test of “substantial similarity” between the copied work and our original work.
The standard for substantial similarity may have to be tested in court, but one thing is clear. Expelled will not be able to claim independent creation of their video. Here’s what Bill Dembski has to say about the creation of the Expelled video:
I’ve gotten to know the producers quite well. As far as I can tell, they made sure to budget for lawsuits. Also, I know for a fact that they have one of the best intellectual property attorneys in the business. I expect that the producers made their video close enough to the Harvard video to get tongues awagging (Headline: “Harvard University Seeks Injunction Against Ben Stein and EXPELLED” — you think that might generate interest in the movie?), but different enough so that they are unexposed.
It was a nice touch on the producer’s part to use the same music as the XVIVO video. Presumably they got permission from the artist — or is that another possible oversight to explore? But then again, one of the producers was for years in the music business. So most likely they’re covered here as well.
BOTTOM LINE: Before you think the producers of EXPELLED are idiots, you might think that they are chess players who have seen several moves ahead. For instance, have you ever thought who stood to gain the most from the Machine Video featured at UD a week ago? . . .
So according to Bill Dembski, who claims to be on intimate terms with the producer of the film (and who uses the Expelled version of the video on his website) the producers of Expelled engaged in a criminal conspiracy to copy the essential content of the XVIVO/Harvard video, with just enough changes to avoid copyright infringement. It’s a bit like arguing that it’s OK to produce Micky Mouse cartoons if you hire your own animators and you change the color of Mickey’s pants.
Generally it takes weeks and months to gather enough evidence to prove intent to commit a copyright violation, but Demski has scored an own goal, giving the plaintiffs exactly the kind of motivation and opportunity behind the act needed to demonstrate intention.
Good job, Bill. We wish you and you friends at Expelled the best of luck in court. As one of your blog posters says:
Well, if this goes to court, maybe this time we’ll get a solidly conservative judge appointed by President Bush, rather than some ACLU loving liberal.
This has also been blogged by ERV.
April 11th, 2008 at 4:02 pm
Well, if this goes to court, maybe this time we’ll get a solidly conservative judge appointed by President Bush, rather than some ACLU loving liberal.
Like Judge John Roberts?
April 12th, 2008 at 7:06 pm
Judge John E. Jones III?
April 12th, 2008 at 11:59 pm
Yeah, that’s who I meant. I want to see him and Jon Huntsman run for the Republican ticket in ‘12. Then the IDiots will have nowhere to go!
April 14th, 2008 at 3:54 pm
I don’t think this is (yet) an “Up Yours!” to XVIVO. They are not responding to the letter specifically, but rather to ‘question have been raised’. They still have the opportunity to not release on April 18th or to not include the footage in it. The notice was pretty carefully worded such that they actually aren’t saying that they aren’t in fact guilty of what XVIVOs letter claims.
It doesn’t look like Premise has a hope in heck of defending themselves against this one. They’re is no way they are going to have a ton of paper-work, DVDs, science papers, scientists, graphic arts folks, production notes, supercomputer receipts, etc. showing that they independently modeled and produced this. The question is always going to come down to “Then how did you know to model it this way if you didn’t model it?” Even if they somehow could prove they modelled it… one would have to ask why their segment has the same camera angles, structures, proteins, atomic motion, etc.? Why they left out the same proteins and included others. Even then, they have to answer why both segments include the same errors.
Dembski’s statements are opinion - since he doesn’t have any direct knowledge of Premise. It would only be damming if discovery showed that he did have direct knowledge or contact with them on this topic. At which point, his own copyright issues on the same film would come in.
I don’t see how Premise can release. It would take less than a couple of months for a judge to shut down the film while the copyright issue is sorted out, I doubt many theatres would touch this in the meantime, and fines are for every showing.
April 14th, 2008 at 10:56 pm
> Also, I know for a fact that they have one of the best intellectual property attorneys in the business
Casey Luskin, Seth Cooper, or maybe even the hero of Dover, Wendell Bird?
Laughs!
April 16th, 2008 at 12:22 am
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