Harun Yahya given 3-year jail sentence
May 11th, 2008 midwifetoad Posted in News |
From Reuters, Via ERV, We receive news that the Turkish creationist writer has been convicted of “creating an illegal organization for personal gain.”
Oktar [aka Harun Yahya] had been tried with 17 other defendants in an Istanbul court. The verdict and sentence came after a previous trial that began in 2000 after Oktar, along with 50 members of his foundation, was arrested in 1999.
In that court case, Oktar had been charged with using threats for personal benefit and creating an organization with the intent to commit a crime. The charges were dropped but another court picked them up resulting in the latest case.
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Oktar, born in 1956, is the driving force behind a richly funded movement based in Turkey that champions creationism, the belief that God literally created the world in six days as told in the Bible and the Koran.
May 14th, 2008 at 1:06 pm
It makes one wonder why prominent creationists continually end up on the wrong side of the law…
June 8th, 2008 at 6:55 pm
“It makes one wonder why prominent creationists continually end up on the wrong side of the law…”
It’s their superior morality.
July 8th, 2008 at 1:27 pm
Adnan Oktar has utterly exposed and scientifically demolished the sinister fairy-tale called evolution and the disasters it has visited on humanity and continues to do (the survival of the fittest, big fish eats little fish in capitalist economies and might is right (unofficial imperialism) mentality foisted on the masses from very early on in education system etc etc
The guy has caused such waves in academic circles with his amazing Atlas of Creation (that has placed the deception of evolution out in the open)that the Masons have decided that enough is enough.
They are sick and tired of his being allowed to operate freely in Masonically-controlled secular Turkey and hence the reason for his recent sentencing to 3 years in jail for alleged financial irregularities.
But it is too late, his work is out in the open and no one who comes across the nonsence that is evolution can sincerely believe in it any longer. It will become clear to people that it is a deception kept “alive” by propaganda.
The myth that Religion and science cannot co-exist has been exposed and utterly refuted.
If we were really in a democratic system, WHY do they not allow Creationism and Darwinism to be taught alongside eachother and make children make up their own minds to where the truth lies.
It is obvious why not, as fear that people on mass would abandon the consumer/materialist game and return to God utterly grips them. The recent reactions to the Atlas of Creation and the troubles Adnan Oktar finds himself in are a stunning example of how unjust it is.
There is no doubt that it is truly a disgraceful deception but truth always stands firm and overcomes falsehood no matter the attempts of those to whom it causes graet discomfort.
July 8th, 2008 at 1:28 pm
THE QU’RAN WHICH IS THE LAST AND FINAL REVELATION/GUIDANCE TO MANKIND PROVES THAT GOD EXISTS AND THAT IT IS HIS WORD
Who says so?
ADMISSIONS OF NON-MUSLIM SCIENTISTS THEMSELVES ON: SCIENCEISLAM.COM
AND NO VERBAL ACROBATICS OR REFERRING TO COWBOY SOURCES OR SITES
CAN CHANGE THAT. IT IS A VAIN AND FUTILE ENDEAVOUR
The French Scientist of French Academy of Science Dr Maurice Bucaille ifor eg shows this in his book:
The Bible , the Qu’ran and Science examined in the light of Modern Knowledge
A Christian Dr William Campbell (Usa) wrote an attempted refutation of this book and then challenged live in Chicago 2000 Dr Zakir Naik (India) in a dialogue on:
THE QU’RAN AND THE BIBLE IN THE LIGHT OF SCIENCE - watch how Zakir Naik exposes the many clear-cut errors of the Bible and successfully defends the unassailable Qu’ran.
He has also done two other lectures on the subject:
The Qu’ran and Modern Science, compatable or incompatable?
Is the Qu’ran the God’s word?
These are just a few examples of many people who had heard about the scientific aspects of the Qu’ran and it’s total agreement with ESTABLISHED scientific facts and purposefully learned Arabic to verify it for themselves before confirming that it is indeed the truth.
LITTLE WONDER THEN THAT ISLAM CONTINUES TO BE THE FASTING SPREADING RELIGION (including significantly many people high up in society eg doctors, scientists , engineers etc) as it is the only scripture which has no mistakes, contradictions or scientific errors in it.
As for the theory of evolution, it is pointless to keep debating about it any longer because any sincere hearted person can see that it is a fairy tale kept “alive” by deception and propaganda for ideological concerns (materialism) which is an important tool for the agenda of the architects of the current Secular World secular Order i.e The Freemasons
And before doughnuts start dismissing it as some fanciful conspiracy which has been made up DO SOME RESEARCH INTO THE SUBJECT - eg see Harun Yayha’s Global Freemasonry
For more detail to see how evolutionists engage in propaganda and deceive the public see the following:
The Dark of Darwinism - How Darwinists twist the truth to turn people away from God
A Definitive Reply to evolutionist Propaganda
To keep upto-dated see: Darwinism-watch.co
The fabrication of the myth that Religion and Science cannot co-exist has been fully exposed, refuted and demolished.
It is only awaiting for it’s official announcement on the mainstream which will soon be happening God Willing as:
(1) Many people who have come to know of the deception of evolution have abandoned believing in it eg in US and Europe.
(2) Those who still “believe” in it are not doing so SINCERELY but clinging to it in vain out of sentimental insistance and stubbornness. They do not want to abandon their atheism and adherence to their wishful-thinking.
Unfortunately they are in submission to their whims and desires rather than their Creator - a foolish choice indeed when one considers that the evidence against them is solid and that they are going to die one day.
IT IS MOST HUMILIATING FOR A PERSON WHEN HE KNOWS:
(1)HE IS IN THE WRONG
(2) KNOWS THAT OTHERS KNOW THAT HE IS IN THE WRONG AND MORE IMPORTANTLY THEN THAT:
(3) IF ONE DIES IN SUCH A STATE, HOW CAN HE DENY OR EXPECT THAT HE DESERVES ANYTHING APART FROM GOOD HAPPENING TO HIM AFTERWARDS?
AS FOR SOME MISTAKES IN THE ATLAS, SO WHAT? THE REST OF THE HUNDREDS OF EXAMPLES ARE MORE THAN ENOUGH TO CLEARLY SHOW THAT EVOLUTION IS A FAIRY-TALE.
ADNAN OKTAR WITH IMMENSE STYLE AND CLASS SENT THE BOOK ALL OVER THE PLACE. DO YOU THINK A FEW MISTAKES IN A 700 PAGE BOOK IS GOING TO MAKE AN IMPORTANT DIFFERENCE? THE POINT HAS BEEN PROVED.
THIS IS A TYPICAL VAIN ATTEMPT TO DIVERT ATTENTION FROM THE REST OF THE BOOK WHICH IS ALSO AS WELL AS THE PHYSICAL EVIDENCE INCLUDES MOUNTAINS OF ADMISSIONS OF DISAPPOINTED EVOLUTIONISTS THEMSELVES OF IT’S INVALIDITY.
SO TRUE IS MY POINT THAT WHY DO THEY IN DEMOCRATIC FASHION NOT INTRODUCE THE ATLAS TO THE MAINSTREAM?
THE REASON IS SIMPLE AS PEOPLE ON MASS WILL COME TO KNOW OF THE DECEPTION AND RETURN TO BELIEVE IN GOD - THE VERY LAST THING THAT THE CURRENTLY DOMINANT SECULAR AGENDA DRIVEN SYSTEM WANT.
NO ONE WHO COMES TO KNOW OF THE DECEPTION CAN SINCERELY BELIEVE IN IT ANY LONGER.
IF ANYONE INSISTS IT IS CLEARLY WISHFUL THINKING -
A VAIN ENDEAVOUR AS IT IS ALL OVER
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July 23rd, 2008 at 4:11 pm
Give it up Joe.
Harun Yahya is a former interior decorator that can’t tell the difference between a fly and a fishing lure (he actually had a picture of a fishing lure in his book, and called it a fly).
What a dumb ass Yahya is.
July 23rd, 2008 at 4:40 pm
AL,
I WILL CANE YOU ON ANY SITE YOU MAKE AN APPEARANCE.
A FEW MISTAKES IN A 700 HUNDRED PAGE BOOK DOES NOT DISCREDIT IT.
THE REST IS MORE THEN ENOUGH TO PROVE THAT EVOLUTION DID NOT HAPPEN.
CLEARLY IT IS YOU THAT IS THE DUMB ASS!
July 24th, 2008 at 2:30 am
Unfortunately Joe it wasn’t just a few pictures was it. Yahya also selectively quotes mines Crick, DMS Watson, Karl Popper, T. Neville George, Harold Urey, H.S. Lipson, David Kitts, Steven Stanley, George Gaylord Simpson amongst others.
Do you want me to actually post the quotations again as I did on the Richard Dawkins site to show how he deliberately lies and deceives when it comes to extracting material from these authors?
You have no integrity Joe. You were shown these quotations on the RD.net site and now you are dragging out the same material on other sites as though nothing had happened.
July 24th, 2008 at 11:07 am
to all concerned,
have a look to see on the site al and epeeist have mentioned and see for yourselves if OVERALL i have not proven my point.
They also failed to tell you that from the very beginning they engaged in mockery and insults and how i treated them by comparison is nothing.
All of the points in that list i have thorougly dealt with in great detail, to which they could only respond with insults, mockery and verbal acrobatics.
July 24th, 2008 at 11:57 am
If people want to see Joe’s comments they can find them at http://richarddawkins.net/userComments,page1,45787
One of the things I find interesting is that there Joe is able to come to sites like this and make whatever remarks he likes. However, when I asked him why I could not post on sites that he was advocating, such as scienceislam.com, he claimed that if they did allow posting they would be vandalised by trolls…
July 27th, 2008 at 12:03 pm
No,
The reasons why you cannot post on some muslim sites is because of the vile, vulgar language and insults that are thrown at the Prophet.
What i have said to these individuals is to do the following:
Debate the muslims LIVE on any stage on topics like (1)
evolution: fact or fiction - dawkins against Hrun Yahya’s team
(2) Misconception on Islam
(3) Qu’ran and Modern Science - DR zakir naik/jamal badawi versus dawkins or whoever they like.
But none of these individuals have the courage to do so and even if they did the secular establishment would not allow it.
Whenever top Muslim scholars have debated on these subjects
they have always beeb successful in proving their case.
On the site you have been referred to you will see that i have presented my case with a mountain of evidence to which tthe only responese has largely been lies and vain mockery.
August 19th, 2008 at 4:12 am
lol this Joe is funny.
But on the other hand people should take it seriously that people are being duped by this load of crap that Harun Yahya and his like (”dr” Zakir Naik, Yusuf Estes etc.) is producing. It seems this kind of stories (”qur’an-miracles” and denial of evolution) has a strong hold in many muslims around the world. As I say they left their brains at the door when going into the religious supermarket. It’s as stupid as the people seeing Jesus in different objects, or Allah written in a fish or the like.
The different huge errors which have already been displayed is a perfect example of the level of this issue.
It’s kindda sad actually.