Senator Charles Shumer (D-NY), has never been known as an exemplar of logical thinking. Nevertheless, as Chairman of the Democrat Senatorial Campaign Committee, he must be taken seriously. The partial transcript below is of a November 2008 Schumer interview aired on Fox television. We address this now because the issue is not going away.
This Premise Media production begins with video of the Berlin wall being constructed to the cello and violin sounds of All Along the Watchtower. This song would have been perfect had it been used by the side of the evolutionist. All Along the Watchtower describes going against the establishment and that is really what Darwin and his followers went against for a century. Now, the ID frauds want to make the scientific community out to be the great evil that has stifled the truth. The truth has evolved because of Darwin and his ideas, not the other way around. The ID crowd also has to personally go after Darwin to destroy the man as well as the message like the nasty propagandists they really are.
WHEREIN ELMO ZONEBALL pulls no punches, and spares no feelings, in calling shenanigans on Barney Frank and the rest of the Democrats for their naked opportunism in the face of financial crisis…
As a follow up to the previous article, I notice the following, supposedly comforting, little note at the end of the Snopes article:
A CPSC announcement issued on 6 February 2009 regarding that agency’s enforcement policy also stated that they would not “impose penalties against anyone for making, importing, distributing, or selling” certain specified items, including any “ordinary children’s book printed after 1985.”
WTF are these idiots thinking about? How many classic books have not been reprinted since 1985 and never will be? This is exactly what was envisioned by Bradbury in Fahrenheit 451. And it’s not theoretical. It’s happening.
As readers are aware, the Consumer Product Safety Commission yesterday advised thrift stores and other resellers and distributors of used goods to discard (unless they wished to test for lead or take other typically unpractical steps such as contacting manufacturers) children’s books printed before 1985 and a very wide range of other children’s products, including apparel and playthings.
I wasn’t thrilled with the exception stating that we can sell pre-1985 children’s books as long as they are pricey vintage collectibles for adult collectors. Um, great, but most of our children’s books, even our older children’s books, are sold for children to read. And read them, they do.
We ran an audit in our bookstore today. We have about 7000 books catalogued. Of our children’s chapter books, about 65% are pre-1985. Of our children’s picture books, about 35% are pre-1985. Most of these sell for under $10 and are stocked as children’s reading.
As an ethical matter, I really can’t discard our cultural heritage just because the CPSC has decreed that books published through *1984* may or may not still form a legal part of the canon of children’s literature for our culture.
So how’s it going to feel in fifty years when the Democratic administration that replaced the evil George Bush will be known as the book burners? And the mainstream press that looked on in horror at conservative culture warriors sat silent while the flames rose?
Only in America.
The usually trustworthy Snopes.com has screwed the pooch on the Consumer Product Safety Improvement Act (CPSIA) of 2009.
There’s been a lot of talk about it’s effect on flea markets and thrift shops, and Snopes tries to oil the troubled waters.
However, the new regulations are not as restrictive as first feared, nor will they put the thrift shops out of business.
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Sellers of used children’s products, such as thrift stores and consignment stores, are not required to certify that those products meet the new lead limits, phthalates standard or new toy standards.
Oh, is that so? Reading further we find:
In other words, used children’s items offered for resale after 10 February 2009 must still meet the new CPSIA standards regarding lead and phthalate content, but vendors will not have to have such items tested and certified.
Hmmmmmm…
Vendors should therefore “avoid products that are likely to have lead content, unless they have testing or other information to indicate the products being sold have less than the new limit.”
Now what might that include?
How about just about everything? Including, it seems, ALL children’s books made before 1985. By law it will be illegal to sell, give or transfer ownership of any children’s book published before 1985. You don’t have to do any expensive testing. You just can’t do it.
I can’t wait ’till someone tries to burn one of these lead containing books. Or put it in a landfill. Maybe they can be snuck into landfills with fluorescent lamps.
So what if one of these unthreatened thrift shops fails to test their items and sells something that violates the standards of the new law?
“Those resellers that do sell products in violation of the new limits could face civil and/or or criminal penalties,” a reasonable interpretation of that statement as it applies to the sale of used goods would be that the agency will focus its attentions on those retailers who blatantly take a cavalier attitude towards the used childrens’ items in their inventory by continuing to vend merchandise items they have good reason to suspect contain lead.
SOME OF OUR CONSTANT READERS may not be familiar with the Darwin Central discussion forums, which is a shame – it’s where all the cool kids hang out. We’re open to all, and welcome those of a like mind. We believe you shouldn’t have to choose between self-styled conservatives who reject newfangled ideas like the scientific method, or scientists whose politics make Cynthia McKinney look like a mushy moderate. Here we strive for rationality in all things, both in the natural world and in human affairs.
Reading the latest in Creation Science. So you don’t have to.
I’m not just suggesting, I’m saying that evolution is not science and is of Satan. It has no place in Conservatism.
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Satan has everything to do with this thread, because the thread is about Darwinism and evo-atheism, which are of Satan. It matters not how long one has been posting here, it matters what they have been posting. I have been posting the Word, and evo-atheists have been posting the words of the Deceiver.
Remember, God is the final Admin.
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The anti-evolution creationists often bristle at being characterized as “anti-science”. They are insulted. Why they aren’t “anti-science” at all. They’re just anti-“bad”-science. They support “good” science and have no problem with it, so they say. And they know the difference
We see these objections to being characterized as anti-science all of the time on one of the internet’s “premier” gathering places for anti-evolution creationists, Free Republic (FR). The Dishonesty… err, umm … the Discovery Institute, ICR, AiG, the discredited Dover School Board members, and the rest of the anti-evolution crowd aren’t much different. None of them are anti-science. How dare you say they are.
The fact is, their hatred of evolution, science, and anyone that challenges their attacks on Evolution is one of the only things that keeps them together. If not for that, they’d probably be calling each other idiots and morons while slitting each others throats, ripping each others hearts out, and condemning each other to eternal damnation. That’s why some anti-evolution forums need special rules for their religion sub-forum “discussions” and “debates”. LOL.
Each group of anti-evolution creationists attacks science in their own way for their own reasons. In some cases that should read “each individual anti-evolution creationist”. Most of them don’t agree with each other on many of their religious beliefs and superstitions and on what is and is not “good” science. The geocentrists, the YECs, the OECs, and the IDers are some of the obvious divisions, and there are many, many subdivisions — probably even more than there are Christian sects.
Forget about Lady Hope and Darwin’s deathbed conversion. Now we have the audacity of hope and a lame duck conversion. George Bush, about to leave office, says:
I think that God created the Earth, created the world; I think the creation of the world is so mysterious it requires something as large as an almighty and I don’t think it’s incompatible with the scientific proof that there is evolution.
And to think, just a few years ago, Bill (Waterloo) Dembski’s website, Uncommon Descent was proclaiming a final political victory over evolution:
…and last but far from least, George W. Bush hisself drove a stake in the ground saying teach the controversy. Unless Judge Jones wants to cut his career off at the knees he isn’t going to rule against the wishes of his political allies. Of course the ACLU will appeal. This won’t be over until it gets to the Supreme Court. But now we own that too.
Politically biased decisions from ostensibly apolitical courts are a double edged sword that cuts both ways. The liberals had their turn at bat. This is our time now. We won back congress in 1996. We won back the White House in 2000. We won back the courts in 2005. Now we can start undoing all the damage that was done by the flower children.
Somehow science trudges on, ignoring the fortunes of politics and power.
I’ve pretty much dispensed with the EF. It suggests that chance, necessity, and design are mutually exclusive. They are not. Straight CSI is clearer as a criterion for design detection.
This leaves one poster a bit confused:
Has anyone got an easy to understand CSI calculation? I’m fairly math savvy…
Okayyyyy… We’ll get right on that.